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	<title>Comments on: MP4/ HD video codec performance review: CoreAVC vs FFmpeg which is better ?</title>
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		<title>By: mr p</title>
		<link>http://techdigger.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/mp4-hd-video-codec-review-coreavc-ffmpeg/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>mr p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dude, stop winning. ffmpeg is slow  and consumes a lot of cpu power out of the box compared to coreavc. period. want to do something about it, please be my guest. reality is that and you can&#039;t dispute it because anyone can verify it without any science behind it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dude, stop winning. ffmpeg is slow  and consumes a lot of cpu power out of the box compared to coreavc. period. want to do something about it, please be my guest. reality is that and you can&#8217;t dispute it because anyone can verify it without any science behind it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://techdigger.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/mp4-hd-video-codec-review-coreavc-ffmpeg/#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CoreAVC has been improved even further with CUDA support for Nvdia cards allowing accelerated video decoding</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CoreAVC has been improved even further with CUDA support for Nvdia cards allowing accelerated video decoding</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://techdigger.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/mp4-hd-video-codec-review-coreavc-ffmpeg/#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well you learn somthing new every day</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well you learn somthing new every day</p>
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		<title>By: JG</title>
		<link>http://techdigger.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/mp4-hd-video-codec-review-coreavc-ffmpeg/#comment-110</link>
		<dc:creator>JG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 04:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t even know of CoreAVC until a few days ago when I downloaded a movie in high bitrate 1080P format and found my MediaServer unable to play it.  After messing with FF MPEG for a while cursing the halting, stuttering awful picture I found CoreAVC.  The slower of the two machines I use is a 3GHZ PentiumD with 1 GB Ram and the faster is a faster dual core Athlon with 2 GB Ram.  Both yielded the same playback results with FF MPEG.  Once I switch to CoreAVC the playback could not have been any better.  SMooth and very well rendered.

For those using CCCP and wanting to disable the standard codec just go into the setting and unclick the H264 checkbox.  This will force the system to use the CoreAVC codec.  Other other parts of the install will work fine including subtitle rendering.

Now if you&#039;ll excuse me I have some sweet 1080P video to watch :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t even know of CoreAVC until a few days ago when I downloaded a movie in high bitrate 1080P format and found my MediaServer unable to play it.  After messing with FF MPEG for a while cursing the halting, stuttering awful picture I found CoreAVC.  The slower of the two machines I use is a 3GHZ PentiumD with 1 GB Ram and the faster is a faster dual core Athlon with 2 GB Ram.  Both yielded the same playback results with FF MPEG.  Once I switch to CoreAVC the playback could not have been any better.  SMooth and very well rendered.</p>
<p>For those using CCCP and wanting to disable the standard codec just go into the setting and unclick the H264 checkbox.  This will force the system to use the CoreAVC codec.  Other other parts of the install will work fine including subtitle rendering.</p>
<p>Now if you&#8217;ll excuse me I have some sweet 1080P video to watch <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wessel</title>
		<link>http://techdigger.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/mp4-hd-video-codec-review-coreavc-ffmpeg/#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator>Wessel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and what coreavc code did you use:P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and what coreavc code did you use:P</p>
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		<title>By: Wessel</title>
		<link>http://techdigger.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/mp4-hd-video-codec-review-coreavc-ffmpeg/#comment-108</link>
		<dc:creator>Wessel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what ffmpeg code did you use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what ffmpeg code did you use?</p>
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		<title>By: Absolute-HDTV</title>
		<link>http://techdigger.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/mp4-hd-video-codec-review-coreavc-ffmpeg/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>Absolute-HDTV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m Vote for CoreAVC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m Vote for CoreAVC</p>
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		<title>By: The Dude</title>
		<link>http://techdigger.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/mp4-hd-video-codec-review-coreavc-ffmpeg/#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>The Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 02:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweet ... directvosub worked perfect .... couldn&#039;t find a good solution until yours - thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet &#8230; directvosub worked perfect &#8230;. couldn&#8217;t find a good solution until yours &#8211; thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: seiryuu</title>
		<link>http://techdigger.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/mp4-hd-video-codec-review-coreavc-ffmpeg/#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>seiryuu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://techdigger.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/mp4-hd-video-codec-review-coreavc-ffmpeg/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seiryuu: Try downloading DirectVobSub and it&#039;ll read the imbedded subtitles in the mkv</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seiryuu: Try downloading DirectVobSub and it&#8217;ll read the imbedded subtitles in the mkv</p>
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		<title>By: seiryuu</title>
		<link>http://techdigger.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/mp4-hd-video-codec-review-coreavc-ffmpeg/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>seiryuu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 05:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a newbie at this; I can&#039;t understand half of what you guys are saying. So I&#039;m pretty sure you guys are going to think that my question is really dumb, but anyway...
I&#039;m having problems with subtitles using coreavc on my mkv and blue-ray/hdtv ripped files. 

I just installed the coreavc and the haali thing that came with it and everything plays smoothly except for the subtitles that don&#039;t show. I&#039;m used to use CCCP, but I changed to coreavc because my computer is too slow to play blue-ray/hdtv ripped files. Can anyone give some light here? Thank in advance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a newbie at this; I can&#8217;t understand half of what you guys are saying. So I&#8217;m pretty sure you guys are going to think that my question is really dumb, but anyway&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;m having problems with subtitles using coreavc on my mkv and blue-ray/hdtv ripped files. </p>
<p>I just installed the coreavc and the haali thing that came with it and everything plays smoothly except for the subtitles that don&#8217;t show. I&#8217;m used to use CCCP, but I changed to coreavc because my computer is too slow to play blue-ray/hdtv ripped files. Can anyone give some light here? Thank in advance.</p>
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		<title>By: Abe</title>
		<link>http://techdigger.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/mp4-hd-video-codec-review-coreavc-ffmpeg/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>Abe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you kidding me, Meow?  You have no clue what you&#039;re talking about.

CoreAVC blows ffmpeg out of the water with decoding speed in regard to H.264, which is what most scene Blu-Ray and HD rips are.  You *will not* be able to decode a 1080p, 9.5mbps bitrate H.264 video on the fly with ffmpeg without one of the top CPUs on the market - ffmpeg uses a single-threaded, poorly implemented decoding algorithm while CoreAVC uses a very efficient decoding algorithm and multi-threaded, multi-processor support.  It&#039;s hard to even compare them.

As much as I would love to be able to do everything in Linux, when it comes time to watch my HD rips I have to switch back to Windows.  I know there *is* a workaround to get CoreAVC working with Mplayer (using wine and custom patches), but it is a real bitch and pretty buggy.  If you&#039;re interested in trying it, it is here: http://code.google.com/p/coreavc-for-linux/

And really, with the crappy graphics card driver support for Linux (I blame the hardware manufacturers), I don&#039;t see myself getting rid of Windows anytime in the future anyway.  I know it has gotten better, but seriously... compare benchmarks with 3d rendering sometime.  Ugh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you kidding me, Meow?  You have no clue what you&#8217;re talking about.</p>
<p>CoreAVC blows ffmpeg out of the water with decoding speed in regard to H.264, which is what most scene Blu-Ray and HD rips are.  You *will not* be able to decode a 1080p, 9.5mbps bitrate H.264 video on the fly with ffmpeg without one of the top CPUs on the market &#8211; ffmpeg uses a single-threaded, poorly implemented decoding algorithm while CoreAVC uses a very efficient decoding algorithm and multi-threaded, multi-processor support.  It&#8217;s hard to even compare them.</p>
<p>As much as I would love to be able to do everything in Linux, when it comes time to watch my HD rips I have to switch back to Windows.  I know there *is* a workaround to get CoreAVC working with Mplayer (using wine and custom patches), but it is a real bitch and pretty buggy.  If you&#8217;re interested in trying it, it is here: <a href="http://code.google.com/p/coreavc-for-linux/" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/p/coreavc-for-linux/</a></p>
<p>And really, with the crappy graphics card driver support for Linux (I blame the hardware manufacturers), I don&#8217;t see myself getting rid of Windows anytime in the future anyway.  I know it has gotten better, but seriously&#8230; compare benchmarks with 3d rendering sometime.  Ugh!</p>
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		<title>By: Willem Koopman</title>
		<link>http://techdigger.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/mp4-hd-video-codec-review-coreavc-ffmpeg/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>Willem Koopman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference between FFMPEG and coreAVC is due to colour settings. When you compare two players its really important to try and weed out the differences that are due to differences in contrast and brightness. 

There are no obvious compression artefacts in either frame, the only difference between them is contrast, If you boost the contrast on FFMPEG, you&#039;ll endup with identical frames.

If you were to use accurate colour profiles for the players you&#039;d struggle to notice the difference.

The thing that CoreAVC does have going for it is multithreading. however unless youre in an MCR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference between FFMPEG and coreAVC is due to colour settings. When you compare two players its really important to try and weed out the differences that are due to differences in contrast and brightness. </p>
<p>There are no obvious compression artefacts in either frame, the only difference between them is contrast, If you boost the contrast on FFMPEG, you&#8217;ll endup with identical frames.</p>
<p>If you were to use accurate colour profiles for the players you&#8217;d struggle to notice the difference.</p>
<p>The thing that CoreAVC does have going for it is multithreading. however unless youre in an MCR</p>
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		<title>By: MP4 Watch Man</title>
		<link>http://techdigger.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/mp4-hd-video-codec-review-coreavc-ffmpeg/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>MP4 Watch Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would agree with Mayur too, although there are a few good options out there you can play with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would agree with Mayur too, although there are a few good options out there you can play with.</p>
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		<title>By: Cesar</title>
		<link>http://techdigger.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/mp4-hd-video-codec-review-coreavc-ffmpeg/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>Cesar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a big fan of ffmpeg/x264, but I have to agree with Mayur, CoreAVC is a great and fast decoder.

Meow probably has some problems with language and his internal &quot;decoder&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a big fan of ffmpeg/x264, but I have to agree with Mayur, CoreAVC is a great and fast decoder.</p>
<p>Meow probably has some problems with language and his internal &#8220;decoder&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mayur Rustagi</title>
		<link>http://techdigger.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/mp4-hd-video-codec-review-coreavc-ffmpeg/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Mayur Rustagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw x264 is for encoding whereas I have compared decoding, so perhaps you misread my blog completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw x264 is for encoding whereas I have compared decoding, so perhaps you misread my blog completely.</p>
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		<title>By: Mayur Rustagi</title>
		<link>http://techdigger.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/mp4-hd-video-codec-review-coreavc-ffmpeg/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Mayur Rustagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well i recieved similar kicking and screaming at the forums(offering me the missing parameters perhaps ), I believe you have missed my point completely, I have no doubt that I could have tweaked more performance out of both filters but my agenda in this blog was to compare the standard performance delivered by standard software, used by most people worldwide without any advanced tweaking.
Disclaimer: I have not recieved any payment of any sort from any firm(i&#039;d wish)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well i recieved similar kicking and screaming at the forums(offering me the missing parameters perhaps ), I believe you have missed my point completely, I have no doubt that I could have tweaked more performance out of both filters but my agenda in this blog was to compare the standard performance delivered by standard software, used by most people worldwide without any advanced tweaking.<br />
Disclaimer: I have not recieved any payment of any sort from any firm(i&#8217;d wish)</p>
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		<title>By: Meow</title>
		<link>http://techdigger.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/mp4-hd-video-codec-review-coreavc-ffmpeg/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>Meow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You didn&#039;t even use the same source-frames for your so-called comparisons!
Probably afraid to show us the commands (especially the missing parameters and settings) you used for the ffmpeg testing.

What a scam! Most likely set up by someone paid for by CoreAVC. In our tests it comes out as much worse than x264, making ffmpeg the winner by far. You didn&#039;t even note that ffmpeg isn&#039;t behind the x264 parts of it. Freaking fool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You didn&#8217;t even use the same source-frames for your so-called comparisons!<br />
Probably afraid to show us the commands (especially the missing parameters and settings) you used for the ffmpeg testing.</p>
<p>What a scam! Most likely set up by someone paid for by CoreAVC. In our tests it comes out as much worse than x264, making ffmpeg the winner by far. You didn&#8217;t even note that ffmpeg isn&#8217;t behind the x264 parts of it. Freaking fool.</p>
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		<link>http://techdigger.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/mp4-hd-video-codec-review-coreavc-ffmpeg/#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>vlc and media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 17:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>free codecs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 15:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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